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	<title>Comments on: Alan Cooper presented by IxDA at Hot Studio</title>
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		<title>By: jason monberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.carbonfive.com/2008/03/agile/alan-cooper-presented-by-ixda-at-hot-studio/comment-page-1#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>jason monberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for writing this up!

it sounds like he is trying to fit other methodologies (agile and rup) into a user interaction centered world. does he think that the user interaction or technical challenges won&#039;t change significantly during the final long slog phase?

he has a great process if you just take the center piece, Design Engineering. Why exactly wouldn&#039;t that work from start to finish? My dream project would be to work with a small team of specialists from start to finish interacting with all stake holders along the way.

To his point about craftsmanship, i think most craftsmen see their products all the way through, that is how they maintain such high quality. What happens when a detailed spec is misinterpreted in the final phase? so common!

I also imagine the real world transition from the second phase to the third phase, cut and paste. what was just &#039;design&#039; code is now the seed of the production code!

there is so much to benefit from being involved and communicating through the life of a project, from seeing someone use a working, if rudimentary,  version of a product. there is a generic process that happens to have been highly evolved by engineers to address this issue. why not actually embrace a proven process and help it evolve further?

not having been at the talk i get the sense of some chest puffery and hubris with a sort of convoluted attempt at making it all fit together.

any other takes on this talk/topic? anyone else at the talk care to comment?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for writing this up!</p>
<p>it sounds like he is trying to fit other methodologies (agile and rup) into a user interaction centered world. does he think that the user interaction or technical challenges won&#8217;t change significantly during the final long slog phase?</p>
<p>he has a great process if you just take the center piece, Design Engineering. Why exactly wouldn&#8217;t that work from start to finish? My dream project would be to work with a small team of specialists from start to finish interacting with all stake holders along the way.</p>
<p>To his point about craftsmanship, i think most craftsmen see their products all the way through, that is how they maintain such high quality. What happens when a detailed spec is misinterpreted in the final phase? so common!</p>
<p>I also imagine the real world transition from the second phase to the third phase, cut and paste. what was just &#8216;design&#8217; code is now the seed of the production code!</p>
<p>there is so much to benefit from being involved and communicating through the life of a project, from seeing someone use a working, if rudimentary,  version of a product. there is a generic process that happens to have been highly evolved by engineers to address this issue. why not actually embrace a proven process and help it evolve further?</p>
<p>not having been at the talk i get the sense of some chest puffery and hubris with a sort of convoluted attempt at making it all fit together.</p>
<p>any other takes on this talk/topic? anyone else at the talk care to comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.carbonfive.com/2008/03/agile/alan-cooper-presented-by-ixda-at-hot-studio/comment-page-1#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for covering this, Alon. Would you recommend reading any of Cooper&#039;s books?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for covering this, Alon. Would you recommend reading any of Cooper&#8217;s books?</p>
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